Shopping Mall Bans Noisy Children

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The Dee Why Grand, a shopping center in Sydney, Australia has banned noisy children from the premises after food court patrons complained of the noise of the rambunctious children. Of course, it could have had something to do with the close proximity of the play area in the mall to the food court. How else are moms supposed to arrange play dates at the mall?

My opinion is this; if you don’t want noisy kids in your mall then don’t put a play area in it. If you don’t want your food court patrons to be annoyed by overtired, hungry toddlers who are throwing tantrums because they want to go home but their mommies are engaged in a much needed round of conversation with the first adult they’ve seen in two years, then don’t put the play area near the food court.

I assume that the developers put the play area in the mall to bring the mothers in to spend money. They put the play area by the food court hoping that the play dates would run over and the moms would stay for lunch and maybe some shopping. They didn’t, however, anticipate the volume and annoying pitch with which a toddler who is overtired and in desperate need of a nap can usurp all adults within a 5 mile radius’ will to live, especially any one who has not given birth to him and even then, it is iffy.

The real kicker is that the Dee Why Grand shopping center claims to cater to young families. Apparently, that is not the case but more of a marketing ploy or perhaps, the Dee Why Grand is under new management? Did I mention that the play area is specifically for children under the age of five?

If they didn’t want children running amok and losing their ever-loving minds in public then maybe they should have thought through their marketing strategy a little better. You can’t sell to young families if you don’t allow young families in your establishment.

The shopping center management put up a strongly worded sign encouraging parents to be considerate of customers using the food court and letting parents know that screaming children will not be tolerated in their establishment. What? That sign would have made me irate. I would have left and told every mom I know not to go to that kid un-friendly mall.

Honestly, I don’t care to hear screaming children, not even my own; nobody does. Duh? But there are things that you can control and things you cannot. You cannot always control your child from throwing a tantrum. They are unpredictable. You also cannot expect small children to be as quiet as a mouse, that’s just not in their nature. But you can expect parents who are made to feel unwelcome and ostracized by your establishment to spend their time and money elsewhere.

Perhaps with all the screaming children and their mothers banished from the establishment, those older patrons trying to enjoy their tea will get off their derrieres after their peaceful meal and spend a bunch of money. I doubt it; but since you won’t allow young families in your shopping center don’t expect to get their money.

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Shopping Mall Bans Noisy Children

Deborah Cruz, @TruthfulMommy, is the creator of The TRUTH about Motherhood, an often humorous and brutally honest look at motherhood. She's a writer, a wife, and a work-at-home Mommy who's trying to do it all well. She live in the Midwest with her 2 little girls and her husband. She has a lot of degrees from a bunch of schools but mostly spends her days shuttling people under the age of 7, while trying to maintain her sanity and she wouldn't have it any other way. She talks a lot. She ... More

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22 comments

  1. LIZ says:

    go to the library then

  2. SweetViolet says:

    I am sure the other patrons of the mall will thank you profusely for taking your business elsewhere. I sure would—and I would stay away from your "elsewhere."

    You see, you are copping out. Your rambunctious one need MORE of your attention, reminders, and consequences, not less. By throwing up your hands helplessly and letting the child’s energy run rampant you are sending the message that you cannot control him and dont expect him to control himself. This will come back and bite you on the bum when he reaches his teens, believe me.

  3. SweetViolet says:

    I am sure the other patrons of the mall will thank you profusely for taking your business elsewhere. I sure would—and I would stay away from your "elsewhere."

    You see, you are copping out. Your rambunctious one need MORE of your attention, reminders, and consequences, not less. By throwing up your hands helplessly and letting the child’s energy run rampant you are sending the message that you cannot control him and dont expect him to control himself. This will come back and bite you on the bum when he reaches his teens, believe me.

  4. SweetViolet says:

    They don’t understand the use of inside voice if YOU do not enforce it when they fail to use it. But, of course, that would mean paying attention to your child and interrupting what YOU are doing to discipline them…heaven forfend, you should be so grossly inconvenienced to do something so onerous as to actually act like the child’s mother!!

  5. SweetViolet says:

    Oh, I remember when mine were small VERY clearly. I also remember taking a disruptive child OUT of restaurants and malls and not subjecting other people to my kid’s meltdowns. That is the considerate thing to do. Your "schedule" should not be somebody else’s problem and it does not excuse the discourtesy you display by allowing your child to have a screaming fit in the presence of others without YOU doing something about it. All you are doing is teaching the kid is that it is OK to behave that way…which it is not.

  6. SweetViolet says:

    Missed the point, didja Deb?

    The mall is not banning kids or families with young kids…it is banning kids whose parents have not taught them "indoor voice" and "outdoor voice" and whose parents let them run amok.

    As the mother of 3, grandmother of 3, great grandmother of 1, I really wish the malls around here would implement the very same policy. If your child is insufficiently socialized such that s/he cannot play without piercing shrieks that disrupt other people—people who very well may have appropriately socialized children, making yours a very bad example–then get a sitter and leave the child at home. If the child is a whiny toddler who needs feeding or a nap, then the problem is a self-absorbed mother who is putting her wants ahead of the needs of her child and ignoring the common courtesy that dictates the world does not revolve around you and what you want, there are other people there who have rights too…like the right to retain their hearing and the myelin sheaths on their nerves.

    When you opted to have a child, you signed on for this…including being isolated from other adults. There are parks and back yards and beaches and a whole world full of places to meet other adults with your children in tow…even businesses that specifically cater to young families where the childless or noise-intolerant are the interlopers. If your child won’t play without 200dB shrieks or you are too lazy or self-righteously selfish to quiet the child in the interest of respecting the rights and hearing of the dozens of people around you, then don’t bring the child along until s/he is sufficiently socialized to respect the rights of others (which means "indoor voice" when indoors).

    YAY for the mall. I look forward to the same policy being implemented where I live.

  7. Alex says:

    Keeping the Noisy children away from the mall is a good idea because sometime it’s bit annoying and are unbearable.For proper functioning of the mall there must be some kids’ zone at the premises of the mall.So that environment of the mall doesn’t get disturbed.

  8. Carrie says:

    This is ridiculous! While I do agree that parents need to be considerate of other shoppers, those other shoppers need to be considerate of parents with small children. As a parent you have no control over when your child may throw a tantrum and maybe you should remove your child from the situation, but that’s not always plausible. If you have a schedule to keep you tolerate your child’s tantrum and do what you need to do. My child throwing a tantrum DOES NOT MAKE HIM A BRAT, IT MAKES HIM A KID! A friends daughter is autistic and can be fine one minute and inconsolable the next and vice versa. I don’t subscribe to the idea that children should be seen and not heard. I think most of the older people that complained need to take a step back and remember what it was like when their children were small. And if you chose not to have kids because you can’t stand children; kudos to you for making that decision, shame on you for being so cold hearted, and maybe you should find a different place to shop so that I can continue to enjoy my mall.

  9. It’s not that complicated. A person may have the right to smoke, but they do not have the right to pollute my breathing space – therefore there is a smoking area or even "the great outdoors" where they are allowed to smoke. Good. Same thing with screaming brats. In our family, if a child cannot control themselves they are taken to another area and told to behave themselves. If they cannot be good, quiet and nice to the other children, then playtime is over. Our children do not have the "right" to fill a mall or any other public space with noise pollution. It’s not complicated! 🙂

  10. laura says:

    My son screams while he is playing. He is having fun and not throwing a tantrum. So I would not be able to bring my son at that mall. Kids squeal they laugh out loud. They don’t all understand using their inside voice while playing. This does not mean that my child is unsupervised. The mom that mentioned unsupervised kids make noise is ridiculous

  11. I have one of "those" kids, wild, loud, and full of energy. In fact I have 3 kids 5-under. Trust me, I wish all 3 of my children were queit and left "play time" for the park, but one just has a never ending supply of energy. I cannot find a sitter to run every day errands and I gaurantee I spend a lot more money at most establishments for my family of five then those quit families of 1 or 2 people. If they don’t want my buisness, I’ll go other places.

  12. Christi says:

    In addition, the author needs to correct the title to the truth… They haven’t banned noisy children or even all but the best behaved children. Rather, this mall is "banning" the children who are left to their own devices. That makes sense!

  13. Christi says:

    I’m sure no one has a real problem with laughing children… It’s the irate screaming & unrelenting tantrums that can occur that will unnerve even the most seasoned parent. I have 2 boys, the youngest in terrible 2’s…. Parents all too often forget that when you’re in a public place you need to be considerate of others sharing that public place. Everyone doesn’t need to be a part of your or my child’s drama. It’s a shame that they’ve had enough problems with parents remembering that, that respectful parents and families have to deal with signs like those… It’s a shame that a business was pushed to the point of also having to deal with putting a sign up like that too. Parent your children people… No you don’t get a full break from that responsibility even when you’re at a playground. (At least the sign didn’t read like that! ‘Cause that is what it also means, in a blunt way)

  14. I have one of "those" kids, wild, loud, and full of energy. In fact I have 3 kids 5-under. Trust me, I wish all 3 of my children were queit and left "play time" for the park, but one just has a never ending supply of energy. I cannot find a sitter to run every day errands and I gaurantee I spend a lot more money at most establishments for my family of five then those quit families of 1 or 2 people. If they don’t want my buisness, I’ll go other places.

  15. LisaHughes says:

    sign could have been nicer but parents do need to be considerate to others if their kids are being loud

  16. Dalia says:

    It’s not fair people are noisy too and they don’t get kicked out

  17. moon419 says:

    I do agree though that they should have thought out the design a little better. I mean I don’t know many kids that don’t throw a fit when it’s "time to leave."

  18. moon419 says:

    Generally my feelings are this, "If your children are having a tantrum, you should leave the store to take care of your child." No ifs ands or buts about it. Don’t expect everyone to love your smelly fussy child as much as you do. That’s why some people don’t have children. I have a child who is almost 2, so I understand the random bouts of tantrums, but I also have enough respect for those around me to solve the problem quickly.

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  20. this is one of the most ridiculous things i have heard. they msut not have or had children. to think a child is going ot be quiet while playing or any time for that matter

  21. Jesslyn says:

    That’s absolutely ridiculous!

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